I had a similar issue, I was 19 started at 17 and reached top 130 in the UK but realised playing against the top 30 UK players how far away I was and really thought about it, if I can't touch the top guys in my country and our country can't touch the best in Europe committing the next year's of my life just logically wouldn't be worth it, very heartbreaking at the time but I don't regret walking away. Sometimes you've got to accept reality. This guy could be a pro if he was willing to make smaller steps rather than trying to make the big jump.
I can relate to all of this quite a lot, so I'm gonna just put some thoughts here. I played over 20k hours in a smaller game trying to go pro and ended up winning a world championship by the end of it, but the game was too small to sustain it full-time. that's the biggest expiration date for young players imo. when you're 15/16, you can spend 8 hours a day playing and still easily have a plan B for your life, but there's a point when you simply can't sustain that without getting paid for it. I'm 22 now and I still play in tournaments in my free time because I enjoy competing, but I simply cannot put that much time into a game while also making sure that I have some amount of job security. It's also definitely true that your end goal doesn't magically make all the time and effort put in worth it. winning worlds is an experience I personally wouldn't give up for anything, and I can only imagine how that would feel in giant arenas like CS. but it's maybe a few months of being at the top compared to years spent dreaming of it. after it wears off, you start feeling like you have to keep winning, and you're either going to start losing at some point, or you'll have a short career. either way, at some point you'll ask yourself "was this worth all those years?"
I don't regret it though. I don't know what my life would've looked like if I hadn't spent all that time grinding, I definitely lost out on a lot of interpersonal experiences, and I could've gotten a lot better grades in school. but I spent all those hours doing something I loved (even if I hated the game at certain times) and I made memories that are irreplacable. I think if you lose that, and the dream of making it to the top is the only thing that makes the grind worth it, you're going to end up with regrets no matter how far you get.
i think it's pretty silly and egotistical of him to not take lower tier offers because he's dreaming bigger. playing on a lower tier team would be invaluable for his improvement. how many people in the nba never played on a basketball team before the nba?
To a lesser extent but still similar is just getting to higher ranks in games theres a point where it just isnt fun to play straight up. You basically just get on the game for dopamine even if youre good. You have to be extremely talented to get back over that where it starts to be fun again because you are just that much better than everyone else.
14:05 I get what youre trying to say Lud. But thats not the decision itself. Its surrounding factors that led to one's decision. Not the decision itself. 😊
I think there is a lot denial and delusion within esports. It's not just playing, its not even putting in proper effort and consistent practice, sometimes you just aren't good enough and that's that. People like Donk in CS, Ohtani in MLB, Vatira in RLCS, Simp in CDL almost feel like they are made for the moment. People can mirror the work ethic from each of these people step by step and I feel its a probability zero that they end up the same.
That being said this kid is clearly not attempting to reach his dream in any meaningful way; is all he's doing simply playing ranked?
That decision to not join academy teams is the height of stupidity. oh nooooo im not instantly on a tier 1 team, like dude you can count on 1 hand the amount of players that went immediately from pugs to professional teams above tier 3. Ropz…. that is it. Maybe you can say zywoo, but even then he was still sniffing around the tier 3 and 4 scene for years while he finished school. Even donk had to pay several years down at the academy level before he erupted in his first ever tier 1 tournament. That tells me he is not cut out for professional sporting period, esport or not. Even the most talented players understand that the most important thing to your development is taking what you can when you can get it. He probably needs to hang up the mouse and learn some real life first, hell he's 16 he can drop off for 2 years and still come back with plenty of time to carve out a career, but as is now he will not ever succeed.
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I had a similar issue, I was 19 started at 17 and reached top 130 in the UK but realised playing against the top 30 UK players how far away I was and really thought about it, if I can't touch the top guys in my country and our country can't touch the best in Europe committing the next year's of my life just logically wouldn't be worth it, very heartbreaking at the time but I don't regret walking away. Sometimes you've got to accept reality. This guy could be a pro if he was willing to make smaller steps rather than trying to make the big jump.
I can relate to all of this quite a lot, so I'm gonna just put some thoughts here. I played over 20k hours in a smaller game trying to go pro and ended up winning a world championship by the end of it, but the game was too small to sustain it full-time. that's the biggest expiration date for young players imo. when you're 15/16, you can spend 8 hours a day playing and still easily have a plan B for your life, but there's a point when you simply can't sustain that without getting paid for it. I'm 22 now and I still play in tournaments in my free time because I enjoy competing, but I simply cannot put that much time into a game while also making sure that I have some amount of job security.
It's also definitely true that your end goal doesn't magically make all the time and effort put in worth it. winning worlds is an experience I personally wouldn't give up for anything, and I can only imagine how that would feel in giant arenas like CS. but it's maybe a few months of being at the top compared to years spent dreaming of it. after it wears off, you start feeling like you have to keep winning, and you're either going to start losing at some point, or you'll have a short career. either way, at some point you'll ask yourself "was this worth all those years?"
I don't regret it though. I don't know what my life would've looked like if I hadn't spent all that time grinding, I definitely lost out on a lot of interpersonal experiences, and I could've gotten a lot better grades in school. but I spent all those hours doing something I loved (even if I hated the game at certain times) and I made memories that are irreplacable. I think if you lose that, and the dream of making it to the top is the only thing that makes the grind worth it, you're going to end up with regrets no matter how far you get.
Just join tier 3 teams bruh. And climb ur way up. Aint no tier 1 team just pick a pubstar
i think it's pretty silly and egotistical of him to not take lower tier offers because he's dreaming bigger. playing on a lower tier team would be invaluable for his improvement. how many people in the nba never played on a basketball team before the nba?
13:16 the karman of the day guy in chat lmaoo. he joined ludcord to advertise his ai slop too
Perfect case of over analyzing and it’s bc of him documenting it on YouTube…
To a lesser extent but still similar is just getting to higher ranks in games theres a point where it just isnt fun to play straight up. You basically just get on the game for dopamine even if youre good. You have to be extremely talented to get back over that where it starts to be fun again because you are just that much better than everyone else.
bro needs to start yoga or something
Song at 23:02 ??? Sounds fire.
14:05 I get what youre trying to say Lud. But thats not the decision itself. Its surrounding factors that led to one's decision. Not the decision itself. 😊
I think there is a lot denial and delusion within esports. It's not just playing, its not even putting in proper effort and consistent practice, sometimes you just aren't good enough and that's that. People like Donk in CS, Ohtani in MLB, Vatira in RLCS, Simp in CDL almost feel like they are made for the moment. People can mirror the work ethic from each of these people step by step and I feel its a probability zero that they end up the same.
That being said this kid is clearly not attempting to reach his dream in any meaningful way; is all he's doing simply playing ranked?
I like Ludwig’s jacket. It gives off Han Solo or Star Lord vibes.
I thought he said "I want to play Theo Von Counter Strike" while just hearing it and got SO confused
nobody told bro abt networking 😭😭😭
Having a score define your value only feels good if you are the best.
People still play csgo?
Get this kid in school, no offence but does he have any friends?
Ludwig so real
That decision to not join academy teams is the height of stupidity. oh nooooo im not instantly on a tier 1 team, like dude you can count on 1 hand the amount of players that went immediately from pugs to professional teams above tier 3. Ropz…. that is it. Maybe you can say zywoo, but even then he was still sniffing around the tier 3 and 4 scene for years while he finished school. Even donk had to pay several years down at the academy level before he erupted in his first ever tier 1 tournament. That tells me he is not cut out for professional sporting period, esport or not. Even the most talented players understand that the most important thing to your development is taking what you can when you can get it. He probably needs to hang up the mouse and learn some real life first, hell he's 16 he can drop off for 2 years and still come back with plenty of time to carve out a career, but as is now he will not ever succeed.
That guy has spent 10% of his life playing CSGO