Even Blizzard Didn’t See This Coming



My friends list is full of people I haven’t seen in WoW for years. Forever drew over 1.1 million viewers on Twitch, close to Classic’s 2019 record, and yet when I got to Stormwind it was a ghost town. Here’s what happened on launch day, why Blizzard is already changing the layering, and what a Tauren casting Frostbolt might be doing in the launch trailer.

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00:00 A WoW launch without the login queue
01:10 How big was Forever’s launch?
04:08 Why Stormwind felt empty
06:14 What real money buys in Forever
09:15 A Tauren casting Frostbolt?
13:03 Where the Warcraft TV rumour came from

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46 Comments

  1. If they continue to have same layering experience from 1 day this game would be good but…. Again listening streamers and weird players now game is unpalayable. I dc some zones were ghost I could lv now I cant. Now i need to kill pigs to get lv because zones for my lv r dead wasted, nothing is alive last 2 days. Good job everyone who complained from faction zones where was not issue. People like u will kill this game not retail players.

  2. Layering is not new Guild wars 2 has had this for years it even does the refresh every once in a while maybe its not the exact same thing but from the average persons perspective it feels the exact same. I am glad Blizzard finally figured it out though.

  3. For me layering has been terrible. Regular lag spikes lasting like 30 seconds where the game just completely freezes then the game "catches up" in about 1-2 seconds. This was happening regularly. It was essentially unplayable.

  4. 12:10 people have already paid for the privilege of playing as sky smurfs, and it looks like retail is awash with reskinned races. they could do some more repaints that people would pay for

  5. In zones, quest areas, yeah layers give wierd things like players fighting invisible mobs but in cities, daaaamn, TONS of people, near forge, trainers, auction, shouting, running, thats is, all, for now, better than i expected.

  6. The twitch concurrent viewers thing is a bit foreseeable given the pouch of violet dust needed 4hrs of watch time. I left mine playing on mute in a buried tab and it spent the next 2 days watching random streams before I remebered. I did my part lmao

  7. 0:12 What about the bug that made people create characters on RP servers when they didn’t intend to? What about the layer issues which meant people who join the same group remain on separate layers? What about the overly aggressive forced name changes? That isn’t even anywhere near all of the issues. Aren’t they now making layering even worse? etc

  8. My only complaint is the quest item droprate has clearly been nerfed – and I'm not just talking about Goretusk Livers – every collect x item is taking 3-4 times more kills than classic.
    I'm guessing it was done on purpose to counteract the fast respawn rates… except that doesn't even help because the respawn is up to counteract the volume of players so it's a net loss for us.

  9. The 1-30 experience was incredible. A couple areas with frustrating times claiming mobs in the starter zones but overall really good. Once you get 30+ and hit like Arathi or STV the game takes a sharp dive. Literally 20 people standing around waiting for tags. They went way too hard into tweaking it the other way.

  10. blizzard has to paying these people to create false narratives, the game is struggling and really showing its age, every quest area is swarmed, dungeons give no exp, and everything expensive

  11. I was layered with someone that was killing mobs i couldn't see. I was killing a cat and he comes up and starts killing air right next to me…. weirrdd

  12. Paid races is a huge step in the wrong direction and personally I refuse to buff any skyborne I see in the wild, I refuse to group up with skyborne for quests and will steal their tags, and if I see a skyborne from the opposite faction tagged for PvP, I will attack them.

  13. The HYPER spawns of quest mobs in caves and mines in starting zones meant a HYPER level of deaths caused by waves of mobs respawning all at the same time.

    Apart from the unnecessary deaths the rest has been amazing.

  14. People have convinced themselves that blizzard isnt gonna start monetizing the shit out of wow forever in the near future. I have some bad news guys… this is still the same blizzard and microsoft we've all grown to hate. I feel like we learn this lesson every year and people act surprised when theyre burned.

  15. My wife has never had any interest in WoW. We played briefly together during classic launch, but she wasn't a big fan. She decided to give it another try because she saw how excited I was and decided to jump in with me. I didn't think she would come to enjoy it, as it is not so much different than the previous iteration, that it could change the mind of a staunch disliker of the game. Needless to say, we've canceled dinner plans with some friends later this week so we can continue playing on my days off. I don't know what did it, if it was the blue elves or if she just went in more opened minded, but she is hooked on this game, and we've been having a blast.

  16. It started out good but now it's so crowded now that I can barely get a damn tag in some areas. Quest item quests I'd more or less stopped trying to do. And the faction balance on the PVP server is already a problem and will continue to get worse as alliance flee the horde dominated ruleset that wanna corpse camp until the server becomes effectively PVE.

  17. I haven't had this much fun since the release of WotLK, one thing I've noticed the most is the later stuff. I'm in a party at bloodhoof village and the place is thriving. As soon as we leave the party then suddenly everyone around me disappears, the weather changes and I'm alone

  18. I really hope they don't open up the class/race restrictions as it will just deflate the lore and feel of your race, no Tauren mages or rogues, or Night elf shamans. I was okay with the ones they did, expect Orc mages. Doing this feels like the slippery slope for all the worse things about Retail, the blue elves was bad enough and has for me already ruined quite abit of the aesthetics of the factions.

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