We NEED To Talk About WoW Forever…



World of Warcraft Forever launched last week, the game I’ve dreamed of for two decades, how is it so far?
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  1. Please STOP advising people with no interest in RP to join RP servers because people in them are "nice". This is how we lose that "nice". I have already seen a lot of scumbag non -RPers, being toxic assholes becasue they think RPers are pushovers.

  2. I was in beta phase 2 also! I also played from then until the end of WotLK. I have bought most of the expansions since, except for Shadowlands and Midnight, just to see if the game could respark my interest, but I usually quit in a month or two. Been playing Forever a ton though.

  3. They could let you create the character, but then put you into a queue that only goes down as more of the other faction log in, or someone from yours log out lol

  4. I was in Hillsbrad lfg for a dungeon. I noticed my buffs expiring soon, so I set up a campfire and a tent, used my sleeping bag, it was very peaceful. I got a group inv for my dungeon, and when I accepted I instantly layered. My camp vanished, and I was left alone, laying in the middle of a field during a thunderstorm. Only 1 sleeping bag stack, and bag was now on cooldown. Instant immersion breaking vibe change.

  5. It's a slightly different vanilla, right? Not trying to be a hater, but I've played vanilla so much that the lack of novelty would kill me if I leveled to 60 again.

  6. I never cared for any version of classic, private or blizzard run… but Blizzard completely and utterly neglecting retail, then spoiling forever with new graphics and not also adding those to retail, has moved me from not caring to actively hating WoW: Forever.

  7. I’ve made the same mistake I always do and rolled PvP. WoW is a good game but PvP is never fair and I rarely choose fair fights either. I think I’m going to end up re-rolling or falling back in to M&M.

  8. I'm loving WoW Forever, but one of my issues that I'm noticing is that I feel like most of the 1,000 new quests didn't go to the right places. I was hoping all those new quests would mean that the zones that were quite quest sparse in classic would be filled out, but so far I'm still running into the same quest scarcity in Kalimdor that I always have. Zones like Ashenvale and Stonetalon Mountains for the early to mid level 20s haven't seen much love. 1,000 quests seems like a lot until you realize that like 2/3 of those have gone into the new zones of the Riverglades, Zephras Isle, and Mount Hyjal, leaving the barren zones still quite barren. If you imagine a 3d map where every zone is either a hill or a valley depending on how quest-dense it is, where the most quest sparse zones are the deepest valleys, then what I would've done is pour quests across the whole surface like rain, so that it pools in the deepest valleys first and bounces off the hills, bringing every zone up to a more comparable quest density. But it doesn't seem like they did that. Instead, some zones that already had enough quests got more, and zones that really needed more didn't get many at all.

    And a very specific gripe is that they broke druid prowling. I think in every other version of the game you can enter prowl directly from caster form, whether through a macro or whatever, but in Forever you can't. Macros for it just don't work beyond shifting you into cat form.

  9. RP servers are almost always the best server/community/people. I bet I've done RP like twice in 27 years of gaming just because I got pulled into it but I ALWAYS play the RP servers and the just respect the ruleset and community because they truly give me the best experience.

  10. I wish I could love it like everyone else seems to be loving it. I just can't get past the amount of changes they've made… but they couldn't give us decent looking male characters in Horde? I always play a male blood elf warlock or disc priest historically. I HATED the fact that the only male options I had in Horde at launch for Vanilla were freaking horrific looking. I know a lot of people don't care, but some of us just like pretty characters if we're staring at them for thousands of hours.

    Putting cut price smurf elves with class locks behind a big ass paywall is just… a huge sour point for me. Even IF I felt it reasonable to pay $60AUD for blueheaven elves, I can't play EITHER of the classes I always play.

    So yeah. Have I been enjoying it? Yeah I guess… but I don't think I'll be sticking with it. Class fantasy matters.

    And yes, the layering. I hate it… HAAAATE it.

  11. The legacy system is making me feel like i have to make alts though. I would like to just keep the one main and do stuff with that and invest into it. Now that feels like i am missing out and my account will be handicapped 😐

  12. I don't believe them when they say it's bigger than the WOTLK at its biggest… Also, personally I'm finding it a little on the boring side lately. The levelling is horrible. It was changed in cataclysm for a good reason, because you level for 2 levels in a zone, travel halfway across the world to level for 2 more levels, then travel all the way back… that's not fun; that's a walking simulator. It got better when I got the mount, but that was 40 levels in to the game. Luckily, as well, I'm a paladin, so the mount is free, while others have to pay 100 gold, which is an insane price for a level 40 mount. Unless people have been constantly selling stuff on the AH, they won't have close to that, and I mean heavy selling stuff. I'm still trying to figure out what there is to do at the endgame, really. No dungeons, really, no HC dungeons, no mythic dungeons, which I hope no mythic anything comes in to the game, but other than raids with no hard raids either, I have no idea what it's going to be like. They say it's 300 hours levelling, and that's only because 250 of them hours you are flying and running everywhere, and someone has already cheesed the game and got max level in under 3 days lol

  13. People really acting like they only wanted the base vanilla game. Lmao yall are so weird. The game needed QoL changes, and Forever needs more of them if they want it to be successful long term. Nobody wants to spend a million years hitting level cap.

  14. There should be no rule sets and layering /sharding should resolve the 50/50 on each faction… With pve players all rolled into their own shards layers and PvP should be monthly or weekly opt in so you can't abuse it to drop it or add it whenever you want. Same with hardcore/ RP etc etc all opt in means more players will get involved.

  15. The constant “balance” changes and the Dungeon XP nerfs. The just made it so if ANY party member is seeing gray mobs the entire party gets NO XP. How does this work in dungeons where the mobs span 10 levels like Gnomer?!? I’m a Holy priest and was planning to heal dungeons for silver/gold because Blizzard said boosting was part of the game…but I guess they changed their minds after they took my money.

  16. My experience has been mixed. I am enjoying the game, but I am definitely NOT enjoying the community, which has led to my first week being essentially wasted. I started on Horde PVE; the community was tolerable and I was making good progress, until my guild decided to switch and start over on Alliance PVE. Unfortunately, the Alliance PVE community remains just as toxic now as I remember when I left WoW in 2015. Chat in the cities on Alliance PVE is basically what would happen if you made Reddit or 4chan into a MMO; just a constant stream of spam, trolling and obscenities across multiple channels, definitely not doing any favors for the stereotype of gamers as unmedicated creeps and bigots living in their parents' basements. So, once again, I abandoned my progress, left my guild to start over alone, and started over AGAIN on the Horde RP ruleset. So far there is much less subhuman activity in chat, and maybe now I'll finally be able to make progress I can keep without all the toxicity.

  17. The MMO genre isn't for me and never has been, I'm not willing to spend that much time on one game it's why I'm a singleplayer gamer. But it's a joy to see such a positive response and so many people enjoying it so vocally! Of course there are still pathetic lower than scum trolls without a life who don't actually play any games trying to crap on it or make things up to complain about like there is for every game, but their toddler-like screaming is being drowned out completely by the adults in the room and that's amazing

  18. Very glad Blizzard is enforcing faction balance. Just play the other faction or a different ruleset. Very simple fix. That said, they should indeed incentivize going underdog realms.

    And the layering fix you mentioned seems like an obvious win. And would incentivize going underdog realms as well for people who actually enjoy pvp.

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